Thursday, July 20, 2006
An open letter to the CRCOA, Inc, and the responses
Dear Mr. Fisher:
I concur that the membership of pro-abortion politicians in the Knights of Columbus is a blight on the organization. However, I cannot support your planned protest against the Knights of Columbus due to its refusal to expel pro-abortion politicians who are also members of the Order.
As you point out on your website "we recognize that He established His Church as a hierachical one" as does the Knights of Columbus. As such, only bishops can define what a "practical Catholic" is, and so long as the individual bishops do not publicly declare these individuals as no longer being practical Catholics, there is nothing that the order can do in regards to their membership since we have no moral authority to declare anyone to be a "non-practical Catholic."
However, I would certainly support any resolution (which would have to be initiated at the state level(s)) to publicly call on any member of the Knights who is a pro-abortion politician to immediately resign. The resolution should also include language that reaffirms the pro-life stance of the Order. Additionally, I would appreciate it if you could send me a list of these politicians so that I may contact them personally and ask them to change their ways or resign from the Knights.
Vivat Jesus!
Matthew J. McKinley PGK/SK
MR. FISHER RESPONDS:
Matthew,
Thank you for your comments; however the statement you quote in the second paragraph is not our statement, but one from the Bureaucratic “leadership” of the KofC and, in the light of the late Cardinal O’Connor’s statement, really holds no water.
By the way, we have twice succeeded in getting just such a resolution passed at the California State Council level, the first time by a unaminous vote minus one, the second time by at least an 80% majority, only to have it squashed at the Supreme level. Also, the Supreme in 2003 actually passed a resolution that would have effectively expelled all such errant Knights; however whenever any Council tried to enforce it, the brave men at Supreme squashed them. Check it out.
If you know of any such errant Knights, please send us their names, Council number, state, and a brief description of their errancy.
As soon as I can locate it, I will attach an article describing Virgil Dechant’s pitiful attempt in Chicago to convince me that we were accomplishing nothing, and that they would continue to protect the membership of such errant Knights for your reading.
As long as Knights continue to allow this shameful activity to continue at the State and Supreme levels, we should not call ourselves Knights! As a matter of fact, Fr. Joe Geary, S.J., our now deceased Four times California State Chaplain, once said to me “Ken we’re not Knights, we’re whimps” this was after Virgil had just admitted to the State Convention that the real reason that they could not have allowed our resolutions to take effect was that it would cost $$$$$ in lawsuits from such loyal, pro-abortion, pro-sodomite Knights! We can’t have that can we! Just think, Virgil’s extremely generous retirement and Anderson’s over One Million Dollar salary might have to be reduced!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.
And My Response to His Response
Dear Mr. Fisher:
"On Jul 20, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Kenneth M. Fisher wrote:
however the statement you quote in the second paragraph is not our statement, but one from the Bureaucratic “leadership” of the KofC and, in the light of the late Cardinal O’Connor’s statement, really holds no water."
I took the quote about hierarchy directly from your "Our Philosophy" section found at the following link: http://www.crcoa.com/missionstatement.shtml.
Unfortunately, you have given me absolutely no legitimate source that the Knights of Columbus have the authority to define what is a "practical Catholic." I can find no such authority for the organization in either the Catechism nor in Canon law (although my access and knowledge of the latter is minimal, my searches have given me no results that the Knights have such authority).
I am certainly empathetic with your position. However, I will continue to focus my protests on the bishops who put the Order in this terribly awkward position since they are the ones who define who is eligible to join the Knights of Columbus since they control who is and who is not a practical Catholic.
Vivat Jesus!
Matthew J. McKinley PGK/SK
I concur that the membership of pro-abortion politicians in the Knights of Columbus is a blight on the organization. However, I cannot support your planned protest against the Knights of Columbus due to its refusal to expel pro-abortion politicians who are also members of the Order.
As you point out on your website "we recognize that He established His Church as a hierachical one" as does the Knights of Columbus. As such, only bishops can define what a "practical Catholic" is, and so long as the individual bishops do not publicly declare these individuals as no longer being practical Catholics, there is nothing that the order can do in regards to their membership since we have no moral authority to declare anyone to be a "non-practical Catholic."
However, I would certainly support any resolution (which would have to be initiated at the state level(s)) to publicly call on any member of the Knights who is a pro-abortion politician to immediately resign. The resolution should also include language that reaffirms the pro-life stance of the Order. Additionally, I would appreciate it if you could send me a list of these politicians so that I may contact them personally and ask them to change their ways or resign from the Knights.
Vivat Jesus!
Matthew J. McKinley PGK/SK
MR. FISHER RESPONDS:
Matthew,
Thank you for your comments; however the statement you quote in the second paragraph is not our statement, but one from the Bureaucratic “leadership” of the KofC and, in the light of the late Cardinal O’Connor’s statement, really holds no water.
By the way, we have twice succeeded in getting just such a resolution passed at the California State Council level, the first time by a unaminous vote minus one, the second time by at least an 80% majority, only to have it squashed at the Supreme level. Also, the Supreme in 2003 actually passed a resolution that would have effectively expelled all such errant Knights; however whenever any Council tried to enforce it, the brave men at Supreme squashed them. Check it out.
If you know of any such errant Knights, please send us their names, Council number, state, and a brief description of their errancy.
As soon as I can locate it, I will attach an article describing Virgil Dechant’s pitiful attempt in Chicago to convince me that we were accomplishing nothing, and that they would continue to protect the membership of such errant Knights for your reading.
As long as Knights continue to allow this shameful activity to continue at the State and Supreme levels, we should not call ourselves Knights! As a matter of fact, Fr. Joe Geary, S.J., our now deceased Four times California State Chaplain, once said to me “Ken we’re not Knights, we’re whimps” this was after Virgil had just admitted to the State Convention that the real reason that they could not have allowed our resolutions to take effect was that it would cost $$$$$ in lawsuits from such loyal, pro-abortion, pro-sodomite Knights! We can’t have that can we! Just think, Virgil’s extremely generous retirement and Anderson’s over One Million Dollar salary might have to be reduced!
God bless, yours in Their Hearts,
Kenneth M. Fisher, Founder & Chairman
Concerned Roman Catholics of America, Inc.
And My Response to His Response
Dear Mr. Fisher:
"On Jul 20, 2006, at 2:42 PM, Kenneth M. Fisher wrote:
however the statement you quote in the second paragraph is not our statement, but one from the Bureaucratic “leadership” of the KofC and, in the light of the late Cardinal O’Connor’s statement, really holds no water."
I took the quote about hierarchy directly from your "Our Philosophy" section found at the following link: http://www.crcoa.com/missionstatement.shtml.
Unfortunately, you have given me absolutely no legitimate source that the Knights of Columbus have the authority to define what is a "practical Catholic." I can find no such authority for the organization in either the Catechism nor in Canon law (although my access and knowledge of the latter is minimal, my searches have given me no results that the Knights have such authority).
I am certainly empathetic with your position. However, I will continue to focus my protests on the bishops who put the Order in this terribly awkward position since they are the ones who define who is eligible to join the Knights of Columbus since they control who is and who is not a practical Catholic.
Vivat Jesus!
Matthew J. McKinley PGK/SK
